Whether we, as a planet population, can make a difference and save dwindling fish stocks and repair damaged environments depends on education. Firstly education at the grass-roots coupled with determination to make a difference in the world.
Individuals acting locally while thinking on a global plane (i.e. the 100-Mile Diet Plan) can make a huge difference.
Then we need education at the level of the decision-makers who authorize "clear-cut" (as a parallel to tree-cutting practices) to obtain fish to preserve and sell to everyone else.
Coupled with education efforts, there is a need to stimulate
media resources to re-evaluate methods of publishing news.
Pandering on the local level to promote imported produce and supporting the paid advertising with editorial content is counter-productive.
As others have noted, do we have the will to make decisions and the self-discipline to try those decisions by personal action?
Remember back in the "good old days" of the post WWII era. Everyone had previously thought that no other war was ever going to happen after the Great War, and then bam, a second one comes along and outdoes the first. What immediately followed this second calamity was a boom in consumer spending, and availability of consumer goods. Capitalists believed that in the wake of such atrocities, the world gone mad a second time, it was only appropriate that we begin hoarding as much material belongings as possible so that we can drown ourselves in a sea of miscellaneous crap rather than a sea of despair. The war gave the United States the manufacturing capability to produce massive amounts of goods in very little time. If we were to apply this kind of super-speed mentality, as if we were fighting a war (though I despise it when people say we are in a fight against nature. Sorry, we're just in the way) then the marginalized projects, products, and potential of a sustainable society would be thrust into full swing.
This idea of conscientious consumers is not new, it just has taken on an imperative stimulus. If we, as a global community, are unable to adapt to this shift in the global system (i.e. global warming, disruption of biogeochemical cycles, etc.) then we will be facing resource wars. The developed nations would most likely, despite their charitable streak of the past half century, close themselves off to the rest of the world, maintaining resource based alliances with appropriate countries, and let the rest of the developing world fend for themselves. The death toll by the end of the century might top 500 million, and that might even be modest. I'm not a doomseer, nor am I a cornucopian who seem to think that things will only get better just because it makes them feel warm inside to do so. This planet's resources are finite. It's a closed system. But, we have the technology, the ideas, the money, and the ability to maintain them so that we don't die out in a hundred years, or at least revert the already disparate global community into a Cold War-scape; but this time we might be firing weapons and not just mouths.
I know I didn't talk about fish specifically, but the irresponsibility within the fishing industry, and consumers' own consumptive abandon has gone beyond, "Oh, I didn't know." Twenty years from now, our actions might be looked upon as criminal complacency.
Submitted by tresenglish on November 8, 2006 - 7:52pm.
Consumer action is good, but not sufficient. Creating preserves where healthy eco-systems can be maintained, is also necessary. Stopping/limiting pollution and destructive fishing techniques are necessary. And limiting the total fish catch to sustainable limits, is also necessary.
Submitted by kieron bacon on November 8, 2006 - 9:09am.
I believe that if a notion of changing fishing regimes comes from 'consumers' making informed choices; then you will get the wonderful backlash - similar to that associated with organic produce. Namely, the big supermarkets will see the potential money-making opportunities, and adapt accordingly. However, as in the case of organic food, supermarkets have consistently forced the producers to sell at lower and lower prices, all the while marking the prices up in stores, to increase their own profit margin. The farmers are forced to slim down their profit margins, while the supermarkets increase theirs. Also, as with organic food, standards will slip. Organic food can now be sold in the EU, with up to eight percent of the product being allowed to come from GM sources, without any labelling. The same will almost certainly will occur with fish stocks as (a) it is realised that there aren't enough sustainable sources to keep up with demand and (b) the checks and balances involved in ensuring all fish sold is from sustainable sources will not be able to check all boats in all fleets (more likely only being able to check a fraction).
In short, consumers will perceive their purchasing of fish from 'sensitively' managed sticks as being the saviour of endangered fish species. The burden of guilt will be removed. But it's not really helping. The only way threats to fish stocks can be protected is if the numbers of fish caught is severely restricted. This will not happen by consumers 'choosing' to eat from 'sustainable' stocks.
Conscious consumerism in itself, in a world packed with people – we are too many, our numbers are much higher than planet Earth can sustain – won’t solve this or any other environmental problem. Also, our society is totally dominated by the idea of consumption, guide by the economical interests of corporations and governments alike. And “people†tend to frame inside this picture as part of it, find it “the natural way the world goes†and so on. Unless radical (and fast) change comes – social, political and economical change – I think we are pretty much doomed.
Submitted by Henry Ellers on November 8, 2006 - 12:35pm.
You are exactly right. Yet, at the current state of development of our civilization, the power is exercised over people not primarily by force but by economic means. For that reason, the consumer, particularly the consumer in the Western World has the ultimate power. When it was easy to lock up or kill any opponent in the past coercive systems, now we have the power. The problem is that we, at large, are so brain washed and void of independent thought that we don't want to change what is. Not at the expense of our material status.
It is only when the message hits home and hits it hard, very hard, that we will start see connections between our wellbeing and our future. Buckle up for that, but meanwhile let's do whatever we can do to lay foundation for the better future that, hopefully, will come after the collapse of the current system.
Is it reasonable to hope now for political change? I don't think so. Why all the Progressives cannot do much at the political arena? One thing is that there is no common political representation even that there are indications that we may represent the largest block of society. But any political party must have economy up front on its agenda. And here it becomes very simple: Progressives don't have an idea about economy that could sustain what is and, as expected, also assure further growth. Such concept cannot exist as what needs to be done for the planet and for sustainability of human life on Earth cannot be reconciled with the current rates of consumptions and with ever expanding principles of our civilization focused on maximization of power. The vast majority of the population is not even close to accepting the message that they would have to give up all the commercial wonders to which we all got used. As simple as that.
That is naive, at least given the timeframe. No grand endeavour based on moral-character alone is enough - it needs to be translated into the political structures. After 30++ years being eco-sensitive there is virtually no shelfspace for unbleached paper, tiny corners for organic produce, a little (& growing) space for recycled paper, growing but still small purchase of Fairtrade coffee, etc. Progress? Yes. Overwhelming to overcome the need? Not even close. People are so bombarded by consumerism, are so entrapped by globalizing squeezes on time and job quality, etc and - my take on human nature whatever that is in the swirl of postmodern sentiments - they/we simply don't and can't morally care and keep in sight all the morally needed claims on our time (I haven't mentioned Darfur, AIDS, local or global rights issues, homelessness, etc, let alone tending to one's sick parents or raising children).
The best path is for the morally aware to "get to" the power structures (& that can mean becoming elected as well) and help them see the need. There is hope in that - Canada still remembers the collapsed East Coast fishery. And again my take on human nature - the big Royal "we" will only act when it is clear the threat is real and imminent - the only problem can be if the awarness / educational component ramps up too slowly, then our communal desire for change on this basis, may be too late.
In the end, with any change, we will either learn or not, but that is the path - one that encompasses all dimensions of being human - moral character, awareness and educational component, political translation, and some form of community or support to keep one going.
So I'm all for "movements" - just make sure there are well-rooted.
As highlighted by last week's Science magazine report, world seafood stocks may collapse in our lifetimes if we don't significantly reduce current consumption levels. In Catch of the Day: Choosing Seafood for Healthier Oceans, senior researcher Brian Halweil explores how buyers of seafood—including individual consumers, school cafeterias, supermarket chains, and large food producers—can reverse this trend and preserve the fresh catch of tomorrow.
Cast your vote in our poll, and let us know your thoughts by submitting a comment.
Submitted by Shana M Zorn on November 27, 2006 - 11:28pm.
I feel that the entire industry needs to stop for many years to replenish the oceans. People need to stop making money off of our ocean for awhile. I believe this is the only feasible thought that could lead to the action of preserving our oceans.
It is extremely unfortunate that the levels of seafood stock is in danger. We can most assuredly put the blame squarely on various world governments for allowing over exploitation of just about every natural resource. Favouring bussiness over the needs of sustainability is going to be the demise of this planet.
As president of Jewish Vegetarians of North America and author of "Judaism and Vegetarianism" and over 130 articles at JewishVeg.com/schwartz, I suggest that you check my article on problems with eating fish at
http://jewishveg.com/faq27.html
The implications of an elimination of fish by 2050 and all of the negatives that will result from that are so great that I believe that it is essential that many people eliminate or sharply reduce their consumption of sea food, at least for a few years, so that fish stocks can recover.
My article smashes some myths, including the beliefs that eating fish is essential for proper nutrition and that aquaculture is a solution to the problem.
================
Richard H. Schwartz, Ph.D.
Professor Emeritus, College of Staten Island
Author of "Judaism and Vegetarianism," "Judaism and Global Survival," and "Mathematics and Global Survival," and over 130 articles at JewishVeg.com/schwartz
President of Jewish Vegetarians of North America (JVNA)
Fishes gone bye-bye
Whether we, as a planet population, can make a difference and save dwindling fish stocks and repair damaged environments depends on education. Firstly education at the grass-roots coupled with determination to make a difference in the world.
Individuals acting locally while thinking on a global plane (i.e. the 100-Mile Diet Plan) can make a huge difference.
Then we need education at the level of the decision-makers who authorize "clear-cut" (as a parallel to tree-cutting practices) to obtain fish to preserve and sell to everyone else.
Coupled with education efforts, there is a need to stimulate
media resources to re-evaluate methods of publishing news.
Pandering on the local level to promote imported produce and supporting the paid advertising with editorial content is counter-productive.
As others have noted, do we have the will to make decisions and the self-discipline to try those decisions by personal action?
M. E. Sanford
War-time speed
Remember back in the "good old days" of the post WWII era. Everyone had previously thought that no other war was ever going to happen after the Great War, and then bam, a second one comes along and outdoes the first. What immediately followed this second calamity was a boom in consumer spending, and availability of consumer goods. Capitalists believed that in the wake of such atrocities, the world gone mad a second time, it was only appropriate that we begin hoarding as much material belongings as possible so that we can drown ourselves in a sea of miscellaneous crap rather than a sea of despair. The war gave the United States the manufacturing capability to produce massive amounts of goods in very little time. If we were to apply this kind of super-speed mentality, as if we were fighting a war (though I despise it when people say we are in a fight against nature. Sorry, we're just in the way) then the marginalized projects, products, and potential of a sustainable society would be thrust into full swing.
This idea of conscientious consumers is not new, it just has taken on an imperative stimulus. If we, as a global community, are unable to adapt to this shift in the global system (i.e. global warming, disruption of biogeochemical cycles, etc.) then we will be facing resource wars. The developed nations would most likely, despite their charitable streak of the past half century, close themselves off to the rest of the world, maintaining resource based alliances with appropriate countries, and let the rest of the developing world fend for themselves. The death toll by the end of the century might top 500 million, and that might even be modest. I'm not a doomseer, nor am I a cornucopian who seem to think that things will only get better just because it makes them feel warm inside to do so. This planet's resources are finite. It's a closed system. But, we have the technology, the ideas, the money, and the ability to maintain them so that we don't die out in a hundred years, or at least revert the already disparate global community into a Cold War-scape; but this time we might be firing weapons and not just mouths.
I know I didn't talk about fish specifically, but the irresponsibility within the fishing industry, and consumers' own consumptive abandon has gone beyond, "Oh, I didn't know." Twenty years from now, our actions might be looked upon as criminal complacency.
Wide-spread, coordinated action needed
Consumer action is good, but not sufficient. Creating preserves where healthy eco-systems can be maintained, is also necessary. Stopping/limiting pollution and destructive fishing techniques are necessary. And limiting the total fish catch to sustainable limits, is also necessary.
Conscientious consumers?
I believe that if a notion of changing fishing regimes comes from 'consumers' making informed choices; then you will get the wonderful backlash - similar to that associated with organic produce. Namely, the big supermarkets will see the potential money-making opportunities, and adapt accordingly. However, as in the case of organic food, supermarkets have consistently forced the producers to sell at lower and lower prices, all the while marking the prices up in stores, to increase their own profit margin. The farmers are forced to slim down their profit margins, while the supermarkets increase theirs. Also, as with organic food, standards will slip. Organic food can now be sold in the EU, with up to eight percent of the product being allowed to come from GM sources, without any labelling. The same will almost certainly will occur with fish stocks as (a) it is realised that there aren't enough sustainable sources to keep up with demand and (b) the checks and balances involved in ensuring all fish sold is from sustainable sources will not be able to check all boats in all fleets (more likely only being able to check a fraction).
In short, consumers will perceive their purchasing of fish from 'sensitively' managed sticks as being the saviour of endangered fish species. The burden of guilt will be removed. But it's not really helping. The only way threats to fish stocks can be protected is if the numbers of fish caught is severely restricted. This will not happen by consumers 'choosing' to eat from 'sustainable' stocks.
We need radical - and fast - change
Conscious consumerism in itself, in a world packed with people – we are too many, our numbers are much higher than planet Earth can sustain – won’t solve this or any other environmental problem. Also, our society is totally dominated by the idea of consumption, guide by the economical interests of corporations and governments alike. And “people†tend to frame inside this picture as part of it, find it “the natural way the world goes†and so on. Unless radical (and fast) change comes – social, political and economical change – I think we are pretty much doomed.
Consumer Power
You are exactly right. Yet, at the current state of development of our civilization, the power is exercised over people not primarily by force but by economic means. For that reason, the consumer, particularly the consumer in the Western World has the ultimate power. When it was easy to lock up or kill any opponent in the past coercive systems, now we have the power. The problem is that we, at large, are so brain washed and void of independent thought that we don't want to change what is. Not at the expense of our material status.
It is only when the message hits home and hits it hard, very hard, that we will start see connections between our wellbeing and our future. Buckle up for that, but meanwhile let's do whatever we can do to lay foundation for the better future that, hopefully, will come after the collapse of the current system.
Is it reasonable to hope now for political change? I don't think so. Why all the Progressives cannot do much at the political arena? One thing is that there is no common political representation even that there are indications that we may represent the largest block of society. But any political party must have economy up front on its agenda. And here it becomes very simple: Progressives don't have an idea about economy that could sustain what is and, as expected, also assure further growth. Such concept cannot exist as what needs to be done for the planet and for sustainability of human life on Earth cannot be reconciled with the current rates of consumptions and with ever expanding principles of our civilization focused on maximization of power. The vast majority of the population is not even close to accepting the message that they would have to give up all the commercial wonders to which we all got used. As simple as that.
Consumers alone won't change fish stocks
That is naive, at least given the timeframe. No grand endeavour based on moral-character alone is enough - it needs to be translated into the political structures. After 30++ years being eco-sensitive there is virtually no shelfspace for unbleached paper, tiny corners for organic produce, a little (& growing) space for recycled paper, growing but still small purchase of Fairtrade coffee, etc. Progress? Yes. Overwhelming to overcome the need? Not even close. People are so bombarded by consumerism, are so entrapped by globalizing squeezes on time and job quality, etc and - my take on human nature whatever that is in the swirl of postmodern sentiments - they/we simply don't and can't morally care and keep in sight all the morally needed claims on our time (I haven't mentioned Darfur, AIDS, local or global rights issues, homelessness, etc, let alone tending to one's sick parents or raising children).
The best path is for the morally aware to "get to" the power structures (& that can mean becoming elected as well) and help them see the need. There is hope in that - Canada still remembers the collapsed East Coast fishery. And again my take on human nature - the big Royal "we" will only act when it is clear the threat is real and imminent - the only problem can be if the awarness / educational component ramps up too slowly, then our communal desire for change on this basis, may be too late.
In the end, with any change, we will either learn or not, but that is the path - one that encompasses all dimensions of being human - moral character, awareness and educational component, political translation, and some form of community or support to keep one going.
So I'm all for "movements" - just make sure there are well-rooted.
Worldwatch Poll: What do you think?
Cast your vote in our poll, and let us know your thoughts by submitting a comment.
The Ocean
I feel that the entire industry needs to stop for many years to replenish the oceans. People need to stop making money off of our ocean for awhile. I believe this is the only feasible thought that could lead to the action of preserving our oceans.
seafood stocks
It is extremely unfortunate that the levels of seafood stock is in danger. We can most assuredly put the blame squarely on various world governments for allowing over exploitation of just about every natural resource. Favouring bussiness over the needs of sustainability is going to be the demise of this planet.
Why People Should Eliminate or Sharply Reduce Their Consumption
As president of Jewish Vegetarians of North America and author of "Judaism and Vegetarianism" and over 130 articles at JewishVeg.com/schwartz, I suggest that you check my article on problems with eating fish at
http://jewishveg.com/faq27.html
The implications of an elimination of fish by 2050 and all of the negatives that will result from that are so great that I believe that it is essential that many people eliminate or sharply reduce their consumption of sea food, at least for a few years, so that fish stocks can recover.
My article smashes some myths, including the beliefs that eating fish is essential for proper nutrition and that aquaculture is a solution to the problem.
================
Richard H. Schwartz, Ph.D.
Professor Emeritus, College of Staten Island
Author of "Judaism and Vegetarianism," "Judaism and Global Survival," and "Mathematics and Global Survival," and over 130 articles at JewishVeg.com/schwartz
President of Jewish Vegetarians of North America (JVNA)